Posts by Jongha Hwang:
- What About Those Who’ve Never Heard the Gospel? (Mark Pickering)
- What about those who have never heard about Jesus? (josh.org)
- Letter to a 12-Year-Old Girl About the Eternal Destiny of Those Who Have Not Heard the Gospel
1. Cheops(Khufu), Pharaoh of Egypt (2700 – 2675 BC) He is the ancient Egyptian pharaoh, who ruled during the Fourth Dynasty in the first half of the Old Kingdom period. Khufu is generally accepted as having commissioned the Great Pyramid of Giza, one of the Seven Wonders of the Ancient World https://youtu.be/c_8IJWHvC9Y
2. Abraham (2100 BC) In Judaism he is the founding father of the Covenant, the special relationship between the Jewish people and God; in Christianity, he is the prototype of all believers, Jewish or Gentile. Abraham is called by God to leave the house of his father Terah and settle in the land originally given to Canaan, but which God now promises to Abraham and his progeny
3. Hammurabi (1750 BC) He was the sixth king of the First Babylonian Dynasty. Hammurabi is known for the Code of Hammurabi, one of the earliest surviving codes of law. Hammurabi was an Amorite First Dynasty king in Babylon. Amorites were an ancient Semetic-speaking people.
4. Queen Hatshpsut of Egypt (1480 BC) Hatchepsut means Foremost of Noble Ladies. She was the second female pharaoh. Her husband died early and her son was too young to rule. So she became an assistant ruler for her son but eventually became full-fledged ruler. Her statue was erased in an effort to remove woman pharaoh in history. She extended Egyptain trade and oversaw ambitious building projects. She built the temple Djeser-Djeseru. Basically, she ruled very well. https://youtu.be/8bYRy_wZEJI
5. Moses (1450 BC) 6. Tutankhamen (1355 BC) 7. Nebuchadnezzar (1146 – 1123 BC) King David (1000 BC) Homer (800 BC) Romulus (753 – 716 BC) Sennacherib (705 – 681 BC) Lao-tse (604 BC) Pythagoras (581 – 497 BC) Confucius (551 – 479 BC) Budha (Siddhartha Gautama (550 – 480 BC) Socrates (470 – 399 BC) Plato (427 – 347 BC) Aristotle (384 – 322 BC) Alexander the Great (356 – 323 BC) Hannibal (fought with Rome 218 – 207 BC) Cicero (106 – 43 BC) Julius Caesar (100 – 44 BC) Virgil (70 – 19 BC) Cesar Augustus (45 BC – AD 14) Jesus Christ (4BC – AD 33) Saint Paul (AD 45) Nero (died AD 68) Constantine the Great (AD 306 – 337)
This is a signature(?) food of my family. We are very sensitive eaters except me. It is hard to find a menu that all of us can enjoy together. This tomato pasta is one of the few we can eat together. But it has to be made real authentic. Staring from home-grown Heirloom tomatoes, parsley, and parmesan cheese, etc. I don’t like pasta in general, but this one is really good. Tomatoes are really sweet. There is no sour taste. I think anyone would like this kind of good quality food.
This is an interesting insight from a book called, “지적 대화를 위한 넓고 얕은 지식” in Korean. The author views world history developed based on economic situation. Germany after the World War 1 needed some kind of war in order to overcome their economic difficulties. In this war, Hitler needed a lot of money for war and the Jews were the group of people who had money during that times. You may know this facts, but I did not and I wanted to share with my kids. So I made an easy animated presentation with a software called VideoScribe.
This question came out of genuine doubt from my kids. It is very valid question and also one of the important theological subject, Theology of Salvation (Soteriology https://bible.org/article/soteriology-doctrine-salvation) Many theologians includes this subject in their systematic theology along with doctrine of God, doctrine of Holy Spirit, and doctrine of Church, etc. This means that it cannot be easily answered. However, for kids, they demands a simple answer. Supposedly we say yes or no.
According to the Bible, Acts 4:12 says “And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.” and also, (다른 이로써는 구원을 받을 수 없나니 천하 사람 중에 구원을 받을 만한 다른 이름을 우리에게 주신 일이 없음이라 하였더라)
John 14:6 says “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” Therefore if you don’t know Jesus you cannot be saved or you cannot come to Father. (내가 곧 길이요 진리요 생명이니 나로 말미암지 않고는 아버지께로 올 자가 없느니라)
This kind of approach, which references the Bible and supports your claim, is a kind of “biblical theology” or fundamentalist approach. Of course the definition of biblical theology is broader than this, but this approach is a way of using the Bible and and confirm your theological concept. If you prefer to this approach, there is no need for further thinking. the answer is so clear because the Bible says so.
Should I teach my kids this way? maybe not. Why not? because I feel obligated more answers.
Let’s say, “no you are not necessarilly go to hell even though you don’t know Jesus.” First let’s check what the Bible says about this. the Bible does not explicitly say those who never heard of the gospel goes to hell. But the Bible says Jesus is the only way for salvation.
This means that even though the Bible does not say explicitly, we can infer what that means. Yes you can, but still this is your inferred statement. We are not sure what God would actually do?
When we try to find an answer from the Bible, sometimes the Bible does not have explicit answers to all the questions. This is because the Bible is written around 2000 years ago and there are a lot of new things today, which did not existed long time ago. For example, what does bible say about evolutionism? None, because this scientific idea never exists until recently. In case like this we have to interpret the Bible to find an answer with the guide of Holy Spirit. This kind of approach can be called “systematic theology”
One of the clear example of the topics of systematic theology is the doctrine of Trinity. In the Bible there is no word, Trinity. This is the word coind by one of the early church Fathers based on the teaching of the Bible. So if we try to find an answer with systematic theology, we may say that those who never heard of the gospel can be saved too.
First, God’s intention of salvation is to save everyone in the world, but the world still has so many people who never heard of Jesus. That means most of us in the world cannot be saved. Is this God’s intention? It cannot be. Because there were a lot of people before Jesus, and even after Jesus. There a lot of kids who died by accidents or disease without knowning the gospel. Does that means these innocent kids go to hell? I don’t think so, because God is God of justice and fair. We believe God would not do such an unfair judgment.
Second, there is a theological concept called, general revelation. This means that God is revealed through nature to everyone. Romans 1:19~20 says “since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities–his eternal power and divine nature–have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.”
This means that without the Bible or Jesus, special revelation, people still can recognize God and live according to the natural law in their heart. Then these people might be saved
In conclusion, then what is the answer? I may say we don’t know for sure. Only God knows. and What we know for sure is God is God of justice and love. If you are lucky enough to know the grace of Jesus, which is good, then you would be saved. But we may ask, “are you sure about this?” There are many Christians even in church today who does not live like Christian. And you are good Christian right now, but you never know you would abandon Jesus like disciple Peter and at the end Jesus might say to you, “I never knew you.”
Then what should we do?
Regarding some theological issue, it is not a good attitude to say with certainty just because the Bible says so, because the same Bible might say a little differently or not exactly the same. We are trying to search the Truth, but you can never be sure you have it. This does not mean there is no real Truth in the world. But it means that we need to be humble about claiming the truth and so we need to leave the final judgment to God.
이글은 Tim Keller라는 목사님의 설교를 좀 쉽게 이해할수 있도록 한국어로 정리한 글입니다. 전체 설교 audio랑 자세한 내용은 여기를 참조하세요. http://www.jongha.com/jdoc/view_page/846
이 topic은 지난주 목장에서 나온 얘기인데 대부분 공감하는 내용이면서도 대부분 자세한 답을 가지고 있지 못한 그런 주제입니다. 기독교의 주장데로 따르면 예수님을 믿지않는 모든 사람은 구원을 얻지 못한다는 뜻인데 이런 교리를 어떻게 믿지않는 사람에게 전할수 있는가라는 질문입니다. 그리고 세상의 많은 사람들이 기독교의 독선적이고 배타적인 교리는 비판하면서 오히려 불교나 천주교를 왠지 포용성이 크고 덜 배타적이다라고 생가하는 경우가 많습니다. 하지만 이런 생각을 가지게된 이유는 기독교에서 말하는 복음(Gospel)을 잘 이해하지 못하고 있기 때문입니다.
우리가 이문제를 가지고 고민하거나 적절한 해답을 주지 못하는 이유가 어떤면에서 우리도 복음을 제데로 이해하고 있지 못하기 때문입니다. 이런 말이 있죠. 아는데 설명할수 없으면 사실 아는게 아니다. 사실 저도 설교를 듣고 정리를 하고 다시 review를 하지 않고서는 쉽게 설명하기가 힘듭니다. 즉 일상의 삶에 복음의 원리와 깊이를 깨닭고 살지 못한다는 뜻이죠. 이번 글을 통해서 저 스스로 다시 한번 집어보는 계기가 되서 좋았구요 또 다른 분들한테도 도움이 되길 바라는 맘입니다.
Tim Keller는 기독교의 배타성을 설명하기 보다는 기독교의 본질 즉 복음에 대해서 자세히 설명함으로서 기독교는 배타적인것이 아니라 사실은 그 반대인 포용적(inclusive)이다라고 설명하고 있습니다. 이 차이점을 설명하기 위해서 종교의 개념과 복음의 내용을 비교하고 있습니다. Keller는 주장하길 종교는 사람들사이에 구룹을 형성하게 만들고 분열과 반목을 만듭니다. 인간역사의 존재했던 대부분의 전쟁은 종교간의 갈등에 기인한 것이고 그 갈등은 오늘날에도 현존하고 있습니다. 하지만 복음은 그렇지 않다는 것입니다. 복음을 알게 되면 3가지 반응이 나타나게 되는데
- 첫째, 겸손한 섬김 (humble service)
- 둘째, 화해의 행동 (reconciling behavior)
- 셋째, 나와 다른 사상을 가진사람에 대한 사랑의 마음
- 예수님 구원의 기원
- 예수님 구원의 목적
- 예수님 구원의 방법